Question by lee: What happens when you cross 2 white german shepherds?
I am NOT, I repeat NOT going to breed them, In fact, I'm planning on neutering him.. I'm just curious because they are always crossed with black and tan or black german shepherds..
Answer by Wing
you get pure breed. like pure white german shepherds genes. i studied this in bio lol and heard pure breeds are very expensive.
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[truly yours]: Go STUDY that genetics manual. What you describe can’t happen – but the opposite can. It’s the same as with hair. One of my grandmothers was a blonde. Her children were all brunettes, thanks to Granddad. But one of their daughters produced “carrot tops” to her Irish husband, the other daughter’s son produced a blonde to a bride who was a brunette but as a baby had “moulted” through blonde & red-head.
And self-white mating pairs can produce ONLY self-white progeny.
No, [Ashley], if both parents are self-whites the grandparents are irrelevant to the litter’s coat-colour. Because both pairs of alleles needed for the absence of hair-pigment (without also de-pigmenting the skin the way the Spotting series’ recessive alleles do) are recessives, grandparents become important only to indicate whether non-white parents are carriers.
[Jordan] has it backwards. The 2 pairs of recessives aren’t FOR white; they are for BLOCKING pigment. The e^ e^ pairing that blocks eumelanin (dark pigment) is very efficient. The other pairing, that blocks phaeomelanin (tan pigment), is less efficient, often allowing “badger patches”. The hairs on a white dog or person are not actually white, they are transparent, allowing all areas of the spectrum to be reflected and refracted. To prove it, place some “white” hairs side-by-side on a printed page and examine under a strong light & magnifier – the print colours will be seen THROUGH those hairs
You get bitten in 2 places at once? It’s not a good idea to “cross” a GSD, let alone TWO of them at once! VBG
Assuming that your “german shepherd” mispunctuation & abbreviation actually means members of the German Shepherd Dog breed, you get either no pups, or every pup a self-white GSD.
It is MIGHTY rare for a fancier of white GSDs to cross to a non-white GSD.
For a white GSD to be re-registered as a Berger Blanc Suisse by the Swiss KC, it must have ONLY registered-as-white GSDs in the closest 6 generations. I don’t know what other FCI members are doing, but in Australia and Germany no white GSD can be registered as a GSD, and nor can it be registered as a BBS there or in NZ even if it arrives with The KC(UK) or CKC or AKC registration showing 6 generations of only-whites. Note: The official KCs of those last 3 nations are not members of the FCI, so won’t recognise the BBS – but they cheerfully register as GSDs the off-colours, weak characters, etc etc.
But when a white GSD IS mated to a non-white, there will be no white pups UNLESS the non-white parent is a carrier, in which case you get about 1 in 4 pups being a self-white. But you will have VERY indifferent quality in such litters, as no-one with a Breed Surveyed GSD will allow an unsurveyable pooch to be mated to it. And pooches that CAN’T pass a Breed Survey are unworthy of the proud designation “GSD”.
However, all such pups will be carriers for both types of recessive allele. AND are almost certain to possess various undesirable genes that cause black loss or colour-paling (because fanciers of white collect them to reduce the effect of “badger patches”), so that either their black area reduces to almost nothing by 2½ years old, or the tan fades to palest cream/fawn, or both happen.
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“In GSDs” as of 1967
You get a blue eyed Arian dog.
They should be sterilized, not bred. A white GSD is disqualified from competing in any AKC conformation. A white GSD is “undesirable” according to the GSD Club of America. It is possible that the genetic twist which created a white GSD would create worse genetic deformities if paired with another white GSD.
You change your mind fast don’t ya?
“What are some good breeds to cross with a white german shepherd?
I have a pedigree male, white german shepherd and i want to cross breed him with another, different breed to create interesting cross breed puppies.
51 minutes ago – 1 week left to answer.
Hi thanks, I never really thought of it that way.. Thankyou for tellin me about that… 🙂
I understand that completely, but i will NOT neuter him.
And the idiot who said white is undesirable… GO DIE -____-
36 minutes ago
Now im kinda convinced to neuter…
I’m a really confused person
7 minutes ago”
When you breed a White GSD to a White GSD you could get just whites or you might get a mix, depends on the parents’ parents.
“Jordan” is correct. It is simple genetics. Just as a male and female human can both have green eyes and end up with a child that has brown eyes, two white german shepherds can have pups that are all white or not depending on the decent. I have a white german shepherd whose mom was a red shepherd and dad was black and tan. she is purebred and i do have papers. In other words, it is impossible to know exactly what would happen if you crossed them. However, i THINK there is a genetic test where they can view the genetics of both and tell you the percentage of chance you would have of getting a white shepherd based specifically on your dogs. I understand not wanting to cross them though. Good luck with whatever you decide. Hope this helped a little.
They are not always crossed with anything, tans and blacks are just easier to find. The white German
Shepherds have two recessive alleles for white fur color. It’s simple genetics and in fact exactly the same breed, just a different fur color.
they somehow manage to get dumber..why ask if your Not, NOT going too?
you just said that you would NOT neuter ur dog….now ur going to or are you just saying that so people wont yell at you? and no they are not always being crossed with other colors…..white is not right neuter him…i have a white dobe that i neutered as soon as i got him cuz he does no good to the breed standard