Q&A: How long after first sarcoptic mange treatment until dog can be around other dogs & people?

Question by Chrystal M: How first sarcoptic mange treatment can be around other dogs & people?
Assuming our abandoned dog gets his first treatment this week, how long until he can safely be around us (my husband, my baby and myself) as well as our dogs without fear of us getting scabies and the dogs getting mange too?

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Answer by cav mom
you need to ask vet,

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www.doghealthproblemsadvice.com – Dr Sam Meisler, a small animal veterinarian, discusses caused by scabies (sarcoptes scabei). Mange in dogs can be an intensely itchy issue that is also highly contagious to other pets and also the human members of the household.

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    • EaRocq
    • July 11, 2012

    Hi, my 3 month and 5 day old GSD female has a short hair loss in her face where the she is suposed to have her beige hair growing in ….. is that normal or could it be mange >?

    • doghealthproblems
    • July 11, 2012

    There is another kind of mange called “Demodectic Mange” that is caused by a non-contagious mite. I would have your veterinarian examine your pet and possibly do a skin scraping. Thanks, Dr Sam

    • lauraann0013
    • July 11, 2012

    i really need help! i can not figure out if my dog a (6 yr old airedale) has mange or allergies he itches all of his hair that he can off tail belly face , but it is seasonal in winter it ends and summer it starts up this by far is the worst summer for it his skin is really flaky alot like dandruff but not red or pink does not have any sores i have a vet appointment but isnt until 2 weeks can not wait any longer, and how long does it take to get the skin sample result? someone PLESE HELP!!!!!

    • doghealthproblems
    • July 11, 2012

    If it is seasonal, then mange may not be as likely but keep in mind that dogs with seasonal allergies can also get mange (often mange is missed because we have assumed that the itchiness is just a flare up of allergies in a dog with a previous history of allergies). If we do a tape prep sample or skin scraping, we have results while the client waits in the exam room. I hope everything turns out well for your dog.

    • lauraann0013
    • July 11, 2012

    Thank You! i just got done washing my dog with head and sholders( for the flakes) and baby shampoo Then i found that a mixture of water/peroxide/borax helps for mange so i rinsed him in that. i also bleached out his kennel. i hope it works, we tried so many things! and i did nottice while i was washing him he did have some red/pink spots

    • brokendancer28
    • July 11, 2012

    I need help! i have a 15 yr old black lab mix! she has been licking the area right above your tail now she is loosing her hair where she has been licking! i think it is fleas because it doesn’t have that smell like mange does. could it still be mange?

    • Spartacus217
    • July 11, 2012

    He doesn’t look that small.

    • doghealthproblems
    • July 11, 2012

    @hollytoo If it was sarcoptic mange, then Revolution would be effective; Advantage Multi is not effective against sarcoptic mange. Were fleas an issue as well? If so, then Advantage may help finish the job. Thanks, Sam

    • LuVLyArIeS
    • July 11, 2012

    my puppy has it and hes on revolution rightnow….i hope it works!, when is his hair gunna fall out

    • doghealthproblems
    • July 11, 2012

    @hollytoo We still work with Revolution. How did things turn out?

    • doghealthproblems
    • July 11, 2012

    If it doesn’t work, have a skin scraping performed to rule out the other kind of mange (demodex). Thanks,

    • doghealthproblems
    • July 11, 2012

    @hollytoo I have had a few cases where it took several weeks/months post revolution to work so it’s hard to tell; also advantage/multi is a little better on some other ectoparasites. The important thing is that your dog is better! That is great news! Thanks, Sam

    • philosophic9
    • July 11, 2012

    I shared my story IN DETAIL of how I easily ransacked some disgusting mange that held my dog siege and almost killed him. My story is at killmange . blogspot . com

    • bobdule87
    • July 11, 2012

    I NEED TO KNOW THE TREATMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • doghealthproblems
    • July 11, 2012

    We use Revolution – a heartworm preventative – 2 doses one month apart on our patients. Thanks,Sam

    • christina
    • July 11, 2012

    Sarcoptic Mange
    Veterinary & Aquatic Services Department, Drs. Foster & Smith, Inc.

    Sarcoptic mange, commonly known as canine scabies is caused by the parasite Sarcoptes scabiei. These microscopic mites can invade the skin of healthy dogs or puppies and create a variety of skin problems, the most common of which is hair loss and severe itching. While they will infect other animals and even humans, they prefer to live their short lives on dogs. Fortunately, there are several good treatments for this parasite and the disease can be easily controlled.
    Who gets sarcoptic mange?

    Sarcoptic mange can infect all ages and breeds of dogs. While it prefers to live on dogs, this particular mite will also infect cats, humans, and foxes. Cats, foxes, and humans all have their own particular species of mite within the Sarcoptes family. Each species of mite prefers one specific kind of host (e.g.; dog), but may also infect others. Since all of these species of mites have a similar life cycle and respond to the same treatment, we will assume that the vast majority of dog infections are caused by the mite Sarcoptes scabiei and treat accordingly.

    What is the life cycle of Sarcoptes scabiei?

    The mites usually spend their entire life on a dog. The female mite burrows into the skin and lays eggs several times as she continues burrowing. These tunnels can actually reach the length of several centimeters. After she deposits the eggs, the female mite dies. In 3-8 days, the eggs hatch into larvae which have 6 legs. The larvae mature into nymphs which have 8 legs. The nymph then molts into an adult while it is still in the burrow. The adults mate, and the process continues. The entire life cycle requires 2-3 weeks.

    The mites prefer to live on the dog, but will live for several days off of the host in the environment. In cool moist environments, they can live for up to 22 days. At normal room temperature in a home, they will live from 2 to 6 days. Because of the mite’s ability to survive off the host, dogs can become infected without ever coming into direct contact with an infected dog.

    What are the symptoms?

    The symptoms are varied but usually include hair loss and severe itching on the elbows, ears, armpits, hocks, chest, and ventral abdomen (belly). The mites prefer to live on areas of the skin that have less hair. As the infection worsens it can spread over the entire body. Small red pustules often develop along with yellow crust on the skin. Because of the severe itching and resultant scratching from the dog, the skin soon becomes traumatized and a variety of sores and infections can develop as a result. The itching seems to be much worse in warm conditions such as indoors or near a stove or heat vent. If the infection goes on untreated or is mistakenly treated as an allergy, the skin may darken due to the constant irritation, and the surrounding lymph nodes may become enlarged.

    Sarcoptic mange is a somewhat common infection and many cases have often been misdiagnosed as severe atopy (inhalant allergy). Any time we see a dog who does not have a prior history of allergies and develops severe itching, or if the itching is not seasonal but year-round, we have to suspect sarcoptic mange.

    The intense itching caused by the sarcoptic mite is actually thought to be caused from a severe allergic reaction to the mite. When dogs are initially infected with Sarcoptes they do not develop itching for several weeks. If the animals are treated and then reinfected at a later time, severe itching starts almost immediately, which indicates the itching may be due to an allergic reaction. However, the standard treatments for allergies generally will not decrease the symptoms of scabies, and will do nothing to cure the disease.

    How is sarcoptic mange diagnosed?

    Trying to get a diagnosis for scabies can be very frustrating. The standard method is to perform a skin scraping and then identify the organism under the microscope. Unfortunately, on average, only twenty percent of the infected dogs will show Sarcoptes mites on any given scraping. Therefore, if a dog has a positive skin scraping the diagnosis is confirmed, but a negative scraping does not rule out sarcoptic mange. Therefore, most diagnoses are made based on history and response to treatment for scabies.

    How is scabies treated?

    There are several ways to treat scabies. In the past, the most effective treatment had been to clip the dog if he had long hair, bathe him with a benzoyl peroxide shampoo to cleanse the skin, and then apply an organophosphate dip (Paramite). Amitraz dips and Mitaban (also organophosphates), and lime sulfur dips (Lymdip) have also been used effectively. The animals are usually dipped once every two weeks for two to three times. While effective, these dips are very unpleasant to apply for both the owner and the dog. Because the dip must come in contact with the mites and many mites live on the face and ears of dogs, great care must be exercised when applying these dips to these sensitive areas. The dips can be toxic to humans and are not suitable for very young, old, or debilitated animals. In addition, there are some reported cases of resistance to these dips in some cases of mange.

    Fortunately, there are several other products that have been extremely effective, safe, and convenient in treating sarcoptic mange. Selamectin (Revolution) is a newer product, which is a topical solution that is applied once a month and provides heartworm prevention, flea control, some tick protection and protection against Sarcoptic mange. Liquid ivermectin is another alternative that is sometimes used. It is used at much higher concentrations that are found in heartworm preventives (e.g., Heartgard). Ivermectin should not be used in Collies or Shetland sheep dogs and should be used with caution in the herding breeds. In dogs that are sensitive to ivermectin, some veterinarians have been having success using milbemycin oxime (Interceptor) at an off-label dose. Both ivermectin and Interceptor should only be used under direct veterinary supervision and care.

    In addition to treating the dog, the environment can be treated with a residual insecticide (e.g.; permethrin).

    How is sarcoptic mange prevented?

    Because your dog does not have to come into direct contact with an infected dog to contract scabies, it is difficult to completely protect him. Places where large numbers of dogs congregate are obviously more likely to harbor the mange mite. Since fox and the environment in which fox may spend a large amount of time can transmit the mite to dogs, keep dogs away from fox and these areas. In my experience, dogs that are well groomed, eat a good diet, have a healthy skin and coat, and do not spend much time with other dogs or where dogs are brought together, are less likely to contract this disease. With the new product Revolution, we have an approved product that will help prevent Sarcoptic mange.

    Can I get Sarcoptes from my pet?

    Yes, although when humans get Sarcoptes scabei from animals, the disease is generally self-limiting, causing only temporary itching. There is a human race of Sarcoptes, which is transmitted from person to person. This human race of sarcoptic mite causes a rash on the wrists, elbows, or between the fingers. In infants, the rash may appear on the head, neck, or body.

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