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@wiredwabbit I’m not sure that Ian Dunbar actually SAID any of those things to the trainer he was working for. He probably just politely explained why their past attempts had failed, what he was going to teach them, and why it would work. I think the anecdote is just included at this seminar for the sake of humor and making a point.
@riverapr861 And people who haven’t done their research ONLY believe Cesar Millan is correct. Read any pulished piece of writing on modern dog behaviour training, nearly all of Cesar’s concepts are proven wrong. This is what annoys me the most- people claim to have seen Cesar and think they know about dogs, when in actuality, they know zero about dog behaviour themselves. Trust me and many others, Cesar is a sensationalist and his time is quickly running out.
@riverapr861 You only see success stories on tv, why would a tv show so a failing story? His methods do not work in the long term. As a trainer that only uses positive reinforcement I have never had any of my clients upset in the long run. There is no reason you have to hit or use a choke chain on a dog to get them to listen. Consistency is the key. If you lack it you will have no luck. With clicker training and positive training you do not always have to have treats or a clicker.
@riverapr861 Also, Cesar has gotten bit many times by a dog while training, if you are bit then you are doing something wrong. I don’t know of a positive reinforcement training getting bit by a dog. Please do some more research.
Nice
Is it true this guy got Cesar kicked off Animal Planet? He is so arrogant.
I luv Ian’s concepts and ideas but I will not accept that Cesar is a phsycho!
can anyone tell me which is Ian Dunbar’s channel? If he has any?
@mydogkanskidrums i dont agree with you. Cesar’s legacy may die away( which I still don’t think will happen) but the methods will remain. He has hundreds of fans, including me, and if no one will stand up for him, lots more will. Plus, all this controversy is just nonsense. Kikopup, Zak George, Ian Dunbar, Cesar Millan… they all have their fans and methods, they all work. So why don’t people like you just follow their own idols and be quiet! I’m sick of nasty comments.
@Caninefan999 Fair enough, Cesar may not go away easily. But hopefully his methods will. They cause a lot more bad than good, especially when people at home try to do them. What needs to be followed is a simple, clear and effective method of training, so that all owners can train their dogs effectively…not to go around trying to alpha roll their dog if it barks at another dog. Dunbar has relevant research to back his methods, whereas Cesar only has old, mostly admonished, research.
@mydogkanskidrums u gyz just never get it, do you? its NOT an alpha roll, not something to establish dominance or pain. its to get the dog in a relaxed state of mind to get on with the rehab. if there was a pitbull attacking u and trying to get at just about anyone in the area, this method will soothe and calm the dog. NOT a clicker and treats. when a dog rolls onto its back, it will be of its own accord, to submit, in respect.
“Obviously, any book with Cesar’s name on it is destined to be a best seller, no matter what the content. Since any content is guaranteed enormous exposure, we thought, why not have reward-based training techniques get the exposure…Ian Dunbar”
So much for principles, morals and ethics.
Caesar is not a “dog trainer”…Say what you want about his “methods”…he is not attempting to teach basic obedience…he is dealing with problem behaviors resulting from well intentioned, but inept humans…..
@dapperdan4ever Well i already put him down, but im about to get a new dog so ill have to check that out. thanks man.
@backinblack629 I disagree. Ian Dunbar doesn’t NEED anymore exposure. He is very well respected and very well known, and has been around much much longer then Cesar. He decided to be in the book with Cesar in the hopes that Cesar fans will read his section, and will consider different (more effective/humane) techniques. It has nothing to do with marketing, and everything to do with the welfare of dogs. He is hoping to change a few minds, and if ANYONE changes their mind, then it was worth it.
@Caninefan999 Can you show some scientific evidence to back this claim up?
@zaklukebillkate He actually is not arrogant at all, and I don’t believe he got him kicked off. He has written some fabulous books on dog behaviour and is very highly qualified.
@Caninefan999 Hi Caninefan, Ian Dunbarr does not have a channel. He has written many fabulous books though, and I highly recommend reading them if you are interested in animal behaviour.
@Caninefan999 I disagree – why should people be quiet? If you believed something being done was inhumane or cruel, would you stand up and say something or would you just ‘keep quiet’? Change was brought about by people speaking out against what they thought was wrong. Why should dog training be any different?
@truthaboutforever7 Actually, he does. It’s “DogStarDaily.” He owns a website of the same name as well. It’s a dog publishing company, and there are many great guest writers who write articles each week. Most of the videos are from the Sirious Dog Training facility in San Francisco. However, you do see a lot of videos of Dr. Dunbar talking. And then there’s the “America’s Dog Trainer” show.
@ShelterDogs I stand corrected! Thanks, I am going to check out his website 🙂
@truthaboutforever7 You’re welcome. BTW, have you ever ordered from Tawzer Dog Videos? They have a Black Friday Sale this weekend – 50% off all DVDs. They have a lot of Ian Dunbar’s stuff. I was thinking of maybe getting one of his. Do you have any? I like the looks of “Raising The Bar In Dog Training”.
@ShelterDogs I can’t say I have ever ordered from Tawzer Dog Videos, sorry. I have not seen his DVDs, only read the books. If his DVDs are anything like his books though, I am sure they would be fabulous. I can’t imagine you can go wrong with any of Ian Dunbar’s stuff 🙂
@truthaboutforever7 Trust me, nothing beats a good seminar. It’s better than a book, and I have read almost all the classics (The Culture Clash, Both Ends of the Leash, Power of Positive Dog Training, etc). I’ve seen a lot of Dunbar here on YouTube and watched a couple of his official videos on cassette, but never ordered an actual seminar. I’m sure it would be good. Was just curious if you had seen any, and apparently you haven’t. Thanks for replying.
@truthaboutforever7 Can you please tell me what´s inhumane about Cesar Millan?
Is it the part where you walk the dogs so that they´re not bored?
Or where you give a confused dog instructions on how not to be confused?
Really, I don´t get it.
Great training video. Try dogsblogtoday com
Another good site with lots of training tips for dogs!